iampedro
Jun 28 2002, 11:34 AM
Check out this site and see if you can incorporate any of there features into your program...
1.
Milonic Popup DHTML Navigational menu 2. A step by step wizard for frames, noframes, tables, wizzards..
3. Have a forms based menu sample.. That you can also edit.
4. Just check out all those menus and see if you can recreate any of them and put them in your samples... As long as you aren't stealing, you can copy but build it in your own version of your program for your customers.
5. Have timing delay for the menu .. When you mouse over the menu it takes x.. # of seconds for the menu to expand..
6. Have a menu that is a sample that is like office xp menus, aand your context menu.
7. Have it where the text is 3d in the menu..
example8. See if you can take any features from this menu that you like...
exampleEnjoy
xfx
Jun 28 2002, 02:42 PM
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) DHTML Menu Builder was the first application ever to create DHTML-based menus. All the features that you see on other so-called menu-builders are inspired in DHTML Menu Builder.
There's nothing on the menus from those sites that you cannot create with DHTML Menu Builder.
Version 3.5.003 comes with a wizard to let new users get used to DHTML Menu Builder but I don't like wizard as they tend to give you a limited set of options which are only available on the full application.
Master DMB and you will be able to create menus that are by far a lot better than those on the samples you posted.
xfx
Jun 28 2002, 02:58 PM
Now, being more specific:
1) I don't see any special features here...
2) Why don't you use the application? You will never have the power provided by the application on a Wizard. Frames implementations can be quite complex and a Wizard would need the same controls and parameters the main application does in order to support frames...
3) Forms based? What do you mean by forms based?
4) All those menus are VERY simple and are quite easy to replicate. The samples included with DHTML Menu Builder are a bit more complex and are used to demonstrate some of DMB's capabilities.
5) DMB already implements severasl timers that you can control.
6) DMB already comes with an OfficeSP sample that you can use as a template to create your projects.
7) The 3D text on the those menus are actually images. So just create your own images and place them as the background of your commands. Many users have used this method to create VERY cool menus.
8) I don't see any special features here...
xfx
Jun 28 2002, 03:06 PM
Do you want to see some really cool menu samples?
Check these:
Sample 1Sample 2Sample 3Sample 4Sample 5Sample 6For a complete list of what users have been able to do with DMB
click here.
iampedro
Jun 28 2002, 04:02 PM
Well.. I was just trying to help you be better.. I mean if you put more programed features that made the program easer then your program will become even more dominat... That is all I am saying..
xfx
Jun 28 2002, 04:29 PM
I know... and I appreciate it.
It is not easy to please every body.
Many users request powerful features while others want the program to be easier.
Its very hard to have'em both.
If you have been using DMB since version 2.0 you will notice that the program has grown tremendously and yet it is much simpler to use.
My main focus is to provide a product powerful enough so it can be used under any environment even if this results in a not-so straight learning curve.
xfx
Jun 28 2002, 04:31 PM
Please don't take me wrong with my answers.
I appreciate suggestions and as I have always said, DMB is made of users' comments and suggestions.
So please, never hesitate to post your ideas.
iampedro
Jun 29 2002, 07:05 PM
Yes.. I understand... Fully.. I do the same with other programs that I buy ... I give all the people the latest info and tell them my mind and from there hopfully, there will be a better product down the road..
xfx
Jun 30 2002, 05:46 AM
I will soon make this announcement public:
The next version of DMB (due to be released sometime next week) will feature the ability to create multiple toolbars without having to go through all the tedious and complicated process of sharing projects.
I think you once asked about this feature (the ability to have several toolbars on the same page).
iampedro
Jul 8 2002, 11:10 AM
Nice is this in version 3.6?
iampedro
Jul 8 2002, 11:25 AM
Also another cool thing would be that there is a webpage that is only avaiable to the users of DHTML Menu Builder that has code snipets for advanced DHTML menu's.
I used to have such section but I removed it.
Users "not that experienced" were trying to do things that they didn't understand and this simply caused excessive and unnecessary requests support emails.
This was a very cool section with some really nice tricks
iampedro
Jul 9 2002, 03:17 PM
Just put in a disclaimer making it where you state that you are on your own if you mess with this and it is for the more advanced people.. and make a section in the forum that is decated towards that section and find someone who is always in this forum and is very knowledgable and would like to moderate just that one section or you don't even have to have a moderator.
iampedro
Jul 10 2002, 09:46 AM
Have you tried to incorporate some of these features into your program in the future. Example...
The drag and drop the menu... There is alot of good examples.. of this program but if you could take some of his ideas and put them in... I didn't know if you were aware of this program..
Pup-up Menu Creator
iampedro
Jul 10 2002, 10:59 AM
Also here is a page that has several features for IE that you can include into a javascript menu is it possible for you to build these features into the next version of DHTML Menu Builder and that there will also be a preivew window + features to edit the preferences..
Features for IE 5.5 and UP
xfx
Jul 10 2002, 08:19 PM
Will see...
I don't really like implementing IE-specific features, although they look awesome!
This tends to generate too many support requests from users complaining that the selected effects do not work under Navigator.
iampedro
Jul 12 2002, 08:03 AM
Is that really a problem or do you think people are too picky.. I think that it would be great if you were able to filter it out say click on special fx for ie it filters all the ie ones or you just have a field below description that always reads..
Compatibilty: IE 5.5 +
I am just telling you this so that your product will be one that will have more features than the other guy... But you are the builder and you know what the other programs offer but I know that one thing is that if you offer something that they don't have then you are more at a better advantage and you can earn more and charge more for yours over theres...
xfx
Jul 12 2002, 05:01 PM
Well... I would LOVE to see those effects implemented into DMB.
But then again, I know this will generate lots of support request emails from users asking why the effects do not work under Navigator 6 or Opera.
I'm just trying to avoid such emails.
Every time something changes in the program I get over 300 emails (I'm not kidding) from users asking what happened... "before it was one way and now its another"...
Users don't like to read and I must be VERY careful with what I do to DMB.
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But, as I said on my previous post... let me try to figure out how these filters could be implemented into DMB so they don't confuse users into thinking that the filters will work on all browsers.
xfx
Jul 13 2002, 05:48 PM
I hope this pleases you...
iampedro
Jul 16 2002, 10:47 AM
Yeaaaaa

... Alright... I knew this was the better buy in DHTML menu building..
iampedro
Jul 16 2002, 11:19 AM
I also have another question is DHTML Menu Builder able to work with .NET? I just know that it might be a feature that you might want to implement if you haven' t got it or thought of it...
I pulled it off of someones suggestions:
Click Here
xfx
Jul 16 2002, 05:08 PM
DMB's menus are javascript-based so they will work under any web server.
JavaScript is still a good solution since it’s server-independent and fully compatible with all major browsers.
iampedro
Jul 17 2002, 12:24 AM
Oh, okay I just thought that I mention it to you just incase... I will continue to scour the internet to try and find better products and then give you more information so that your product will be better and better for your customers...
xfx
Jul 17 2002, 01:31 AM
I'm currently working on an IIS plugin that will let you generate menus on-the-fly through this server based component.
If people like it I will also make a .NET component.
Fogg
Jul 17 2002, 06:16 AM
Please don't do a specific IIS component for generating menu on the fly, it would be wonderful that whatever the platform (PHP, XTP, CSP, JSP...) we could generate the necessary DMB Code.
I don't know .NET but does it work under UNIX OS ?
Best Regards
iampedro
Jul 17 2002, 09:17 AM
QUOTE
I'm currently working on an IIS plugin that will let you generate menus on-the-fly through this server based component.
If people like it I will also make a .NET component.
I think that it is great that you are putting that plugin into the program.. And the user can specify if he/she dosen't want to use the program.. So, thanks for continuing to make a better program for all your users..
iampedro
Jul 17 2002, 09:22 AM
Now, one feature that would be good would be to almost have an example for every type of menu, except the ones where it provides a preivew... Or just several templates.. example..
In the DHTML 3.6 beta 1 you have a new feature "The new 'Attach To' Property " if you could have an example of this feature it would be great for I am sure I could figure it out. But if you include a example I am sure that I would be able to figure it out quicker..
You are also rebuilding those turtorials correct?
xfx
Jul 17 2002, 03:32 PM
QUOTE
Please don't do a specific IIS component for generating menu on the fly, it would be wonderful that whatever the platform (PHP, XTP, CSP, JSP...) we could generate the necessary DMB Code.
I don't know .NET but does it work under UNIX OS ?
Best Regards
Fogg,
Being IIS-specific doesn't mean that it won't work with PHP/JSP/etc...
The only requirement will be that the web server must be windows-based.
Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge/time/resources to develop a crossplatform server side component.
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Hopefully, along with the IIS plugin we will also release client-based tools written in javascript to do the same thing: create/remove/change menus in realtime.
xfx
Jul 17 2002, 03:34 PM
QUOTE
Now, one feature that would be good would be to almost have an example for every type of menu, except the ones where it provides a preivew... Or just several templates.. example..
In the DHTML 3.6 beta 1 you have a new feature "The new 'Attach To' Property " if you could have an example of this feature it would be great for I am sure I could figure it out. But if you include a example I am sure that I would be able to figure it out quicker..
You are also rebuilding those turtorials correct?
Time is a crucial thing and I'm missing a lot of it.
Remember that xFX JumpStart is made up of just "me".
I just don't have the time to build so many samples.
xfx
Jul 17 2002, 03:35 PM
Of course, I'm open to proposals.
I willing to pay to someone that creates 50-60 samples showing the most important features of the program.
iampedro
Jul 17 2002, 11:28 PM
QUOTE
Of course, I'm open to proposals.
I willing to pay to someone that creates 50-60 samples showing the most important features of the program.
You ought to put this on your web page... or something like that... Or have a place where people submit there menu as an option..
Just get this out in the open or something like that so that you can have more ideas.. I would do it if I had more time and I knew alot more about the program..
xfx
Jul 18 2002, 02:29 AM
iampedro
Jul 18 2002, 10:45 AM
I mean there actual files or DHTML Menu Builder Project file.. Have users submit there menus to a place if they would like for them to be distributed and just give credit to those people that created the menu..
Dose that help with any ideas?
xfx
Jul 18 2002, 12:13 PM
That could be an option although I'm sure many users won't like to give away their project files. But let me give it some thought...
iampedro
Jul 18 2002, 01:44 PM
But if you do ask them to zip it up and put limit tations on the size of the zip file so that you won't be hit by malitious users or virsus.
iampedro
Jul 24 2002, 11:09 AM
Another Feature---> Mouse Overdelay <---
Here is a suggestion if we do or don't already have it to add a parameter that would allow one to contorl how long your mouse must be over a menu item before it will expose the next level.
xfx
Jul 24 2002, 11:50 AM
You will need to download DMB and use it and learn all its features

That's already possible since version 3.5
Ziggy
Jul 25 2002, 12:13 PM
I've been looking to do this too. I saw how to delay the submenus, but what about the delaying the top level menus when the mouse is over the item on the toolbar?
I've got quite a crowded toolbar and wouldn't mind a quarter of a second delay before the menu shows. I've had a look but can't find this feature.
Cheers
xfx
Jul 25 2002, 07:30 PM
Only submenus are currently delayed... but if you want to delay the main groups then you can create an AddIn to do so.
It should be very simple.
Do think you know how to do it?
If you don't, do not hesitate to let me know and I'll try to create it for you.
Ziggy
Jul 26 2002, 05:16 AM
I really wouldn't know where to start doing the AddIn for this. I would really appreciate it if you could write this AddIn for me. Do you want me to send you a proper request via the support email form?
Cheers :D
xfx
Jul 27 2002, 10:27 AM
What version of DMB are you using?
Ziggy
Jul 29 2002, 07:10 AM
I am using 3.3.004. I did upgrade to 3.6 but I found my project didn't work when I compiled it. I was in the middle of something important so I went back to 3.3 to finish off. I've since read in this forum what I was doing wrong so I might go back to 3.6.
When I upgraded, the html file that told me how to upgrade my project was missing and all the horizantal bars were different. I had to change all the horizontal bars to look like they used to, but then they were shorter than they used to be. But this isn't a big deal and I would upgrade again.
Ziggy,
Please excuse me for taking so long...
Attached is the AddIn. The delay applied to the main menus will be the same as the applied for the submenus on the File->Project Properties->Global Settings dialog.
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Please, if you encounter problems with the upgrade process to 3.6 or you find some problems with 3.6 report them ASAP. I will really appreciate it.
And make sure that if you upgrade you d/l the latest release.
ianhaynes
Aug 1 2002, 09:06 AM
It's not obvious how to post to this forum, other than to add a reply. Perhaps I've just missed something....
As a new user to DHTML Menu Builder I cant see any way to alter the width of the drop shadow effect.
If this isn't currently possible it would be a useful addition.
Besides the "add reply" button there's a button called "new topic".
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Right now there's no way to change the width of the dropshadow unless you modify the "DropShadow PRO" AddIn.
ianhaynes
Aug 1 2002, 12:53 PM
I spotted the New Topic button but when I tried ii I received a "you do not have permissions to add a new topic" error message.
Perhaps you tried it before confirming your registration on the forum?
have you tried it again?
Ziggy
Aug 2 2002, 10:15 AM
Hi
Thanks for the AddIn above. Just a question, does it work in 3.6 only?
Cheers
ianhaynes
Aug 2 2002, 12:10 PM
Given that it doesn't currently do so, how about having the Hotspot Editor supporting image maps, which are the normal way to create 'hotspots'.
(In DW and FP terminology, 'hotspots' are image map based).
QUOTE
Hi
Thanks for the AddIn above. Just a question, does it work in 3.6 only?
Cheers
Yes, the addin is for 3.6 only.
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